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The Beta Test

…and The Last Portal novelette update.

What is a beta reader? Where do you find one? When is the right time to incorporate beta readers into your draft and revision process? What is the best methodology for garnering beta feedback? Why would a writer want to do this?

By the end of this post, you should be able to answer the preceding questions with alacrity.

Let’s start with the question why.

I’ll answer this question by posing a couple more questions:

  • Do writers usually produce a final publishable version of a story on the first attempt?
  • Are writers so tuned to their craft that they need no input from others?

Hopefully, you see the absurdity of those two questions as they apply to the vast majority of writers. Some famous authors wrote and published first drafts, but even most bestselling authors have editors and copy editors. Writers may outline, world build, scene list, and draft independently and autonomously, but rare is a story or novel that comes out of the writer’s mind and through his typing fingers in complete publishing ready form.

The story will need to be proofed and revised. Just because the author typed “The End” on the last page doesn’t mean the work is finished. In many ways, that first “The End” is really “The Beginning” of a revision and review process that is meant to elevate the earlier versions of the story to the highest achievable level based on the author’s skill, experience, characters, and plot.

Why would you use beta readers?

To more quickly and more easily find and identify the story flaws so that they may be fixed to improve the story.

Many authors, me included, are so close to the story, from the many hours spent writing it, that we often can’t see fundamental flaws in the story, plot, tone, characters, point of view, description, pacing, or any other number of story elements. There are even little typos or punctuation issues we miss along with our word processor’s spelling and grammar checker.

Another few pair of eyes can help spot these weak links and the author can then decide how best to address the issues to strengthen the story.

So, who are the beta readers who can read a story draft and provide meaningful feedback? Where do you find them?

Odds are that you know at least one already. Your spouse or other close family member can be your first beta reader. They will be motivated to support your writing and most will be willing to help you. Bonus points if your first beta reader also enjoys reading in genre in which your write.

As for other beta readers, do you have friends, contacts, or co-workers who are also writers? Do you belong to a writer’s group? Do you attend any college classes? Do you belong to a book club? Do you know someone from work, church, school, or community who is in a book club? Do you write a blog and have a particular few loyal followers who comment often?

These are all potential beta readers. A beta reader prospect is anyone who loves to read, hopefully in your chosen genre, and whom you think will be both willing and able to articulate meaningful feedback

You’ve found several prospective beta readers for your masterpiece and have invited them to be beta readers. They’ve all agreed to help.

What now?

Timing is important at this point and this is where your authorial discretion comes in. At what point in the drafting and revision process should you incorporate beta readers?

In my mind, there isn’t a best answer to this. It depends on your preferences. Do you want a review of your story and feedback after the first draft or the fourth draft? Do you want your writer’s group to give it a read first and then after you’ve incorporated feedback you have your beta readers take a look?

Although it may be fairly fluid exactly when you utilize beta readers, consider these guidelines as a bit more concrete:

  • Beta reading should be completed before you submit to an agent or editor
  • Beta reading should be completed before you indie digitally publish
  • Beta reading should be completed before you enter a contest
  • Beta reading should be completed before you consider the story completed and type “The End” on the final version.

The process for my novelette, The Last Portal, has been to write the first draft and submit to my wife, aka my first reader, AND my writer’s group. I incorporate all the feedback I agree with into a 2nd complete draft. And now, I have at least four beta readers who are now reading the 2nd draft. These beta readers are different from my writer’s group and first reader to get an even broader scope of feedback.

Once you decide when to add beta readers to your revision process, how you get useful, meaningful, targeted feedback?

First, here are a few less successful ideas:

  • E-mail your reader a copy of the story and in the e-mail, ask for any thoughts they have when they finish and then wait………and wait………..and wait.
  • Give your reader a hard copy and ask them to e-mail you any comments they have or to call you, and wait………….and wait…………..and wait.

Obviously if you share your story with no expectation of that specific feedback you need, or an expected turnaround time, you will get exactly what you’ve ask for, which is nothing but a read of the story.

The read of the story isn’t helpful to the author, it’s the written feedback.

Here are a couple more successful strategies:

  • E-mail story to your beta reader with an attached questionnaire of all the types of feedback you want or need regarding your story. The questionnaire asks the reader to comment on whatever elements of the story you specify, i.e. pacing, level of description, dialog realism, character likability or consistency, balance of exposition, entertainment value, presence of an early hook, or a question about what they thought the theme was.
  • E-mail story to your beta reader with some high level ideas of what to look for and then call your beta reader when they’ve completed the read and interview them about their reading experience. You can use the same topics as in the previous bullet. You ask them directly about what worked and what didn’t and try to find out why, if they can articulate.

Either of these later two strategies helps focus the beta reader on what your want to know about the reading experience. If you are worried about the dialog sounding realistic and with distinct character voices, ask more questions about dialog in your questionnaire. If you are worried you don’t have a good opening page or chapter, ask your readers about the initial story hook, what grabbed their attention or failed to grab their attention.

Your questionnaire and/or interview should ask more than Yes/No questions. Ask Why/Why Not questions to get details about a response. Most readers can articulate what they like or don’t like about a story, even if they are not writers themselves.

If you don’t belong to a writer’s group, the beta reads may be all the feedback you can get, unless you pay for a freelance editor. So consider the benefits carefully before you decide whether finding and cultivating beta readers is right for you or not.

As for me, I’ve used the second of the more successful strategies and the process has been very enlightening. This is the first time I’ve used a written questionnaire, however, so I’m eager to see how well that works.

The last step of the process is to collect all the feedback in a timely manner you have previously specified and then analyze it for trends. What feedback is echoed by two or more readers? That is the feedback to take more seriously.

After the process is complete and you have all the feedback, graciously thank your beta readers. They’re taken time out of their own busy lives to read your draft story and fill out a questionnaire or let you interview them. Give them gratitude. Better yet, give them an acknowledgement in your published story and/or give them a free copy of the finished version.

Don’t ask your beta readers to read the same story twice, the feedback will not be based on a first read and will be biased by their previous read. Find new beta readers or utilize a writer’s group or workshop for additional feedback if you need it.

If we put this altogether into one succinct definition, we get: A beta reader is a willing reader of a writer’s early draft who can provide focused and relevant feedback in a timely manner for the improvement of a story.

The preceding is my definition and process for what a beta reader is and how one fits into my writing process. There are other perspectives you’d be wish to consider. Wikipedia defines beta reader as: “A beta reader (or betareader, or beta) is a person who reads a work of fiction with a critical eye, with the aim of improving grammar, spelling, characterization, and general style of a story prior to its release to the general public.

Both definitions work for me and having beta readers is the methodology I’m currently using for my novelette, The Last Portal.

Update: The Last Portal has been submitted to four of five beta readers with feedback anticipated by mid December.

I’ll post specifically about the questionnaire I used, the utility of the feedback I collected, and how that will affect my final draft/revision strategy prior to preparing for digital publication.

Anyone have additional useful strategies for beta readers? Has anyone out there served as a beta reader? What was your experience like?


Who needs feedback?

Are there any among us who have undertaken a new endeavor, project, or sought to learn a new skill and demonstrated immediate mastery?  Have any of us mastered anything entirely through our own trial, error and perseverance?  Even Beethoven, one of the greatest composers of all time, was not self-taught.  By the time he was 9 years old he’d had five different music instructors.


Photo from Wikipedia


If Beethoven had considerable instruction in music, then how much greater need have we for guidance in our humble pursuits?

Ours is a modern world where face to face interaction and tutoring is being replaced by books, e-learning, webinars, video lectures and other virtual teaching methods.  How then are we to improve our craft and develop expertise in the vocation of our choice if we are left to learn and develop on our own?

I offer four avenues for consideration that have worked for me and have built up my base ability level in writing to the point where I am comfortable with both my skill and my current limitations.  You can apply these principles to any pursuit of your choice, from learning to play to chess, starting a vegetable garden, acquiring skills in public speaking, or earning a black belt in jujitsu.

  1. Attend classes – Nearly all of us learned to read and write and perform math via classrooms in the elementary school setting.  This is a universal method of teaching and learning that presents information, lessons, activities, and skill-building from a teacher or instructor who has already mastered those areas.  Classes are available for nearly everything imaginable from martial arts in the local dojo, to guitar or piano from a local music center, to university extension courses.  This a great way to start a new pursuit and to learn and build on the basics.  As I mentioned in my initial post, it was from my sophomore English teacher that my initial foray into fiction writing began.
  2. Read books on the subject – Many experts in the field of your choice do not teach classes, but instead write books, articles, or essays on the subject.  Many even have websites dedicated to sharing that knowledge.  This method allows you to deepen and broaden your knowledge base with new and varied ideas that you may not receive in a classroom with a fixed curriculum that has been generalized for a group setting.  You can find more specialized information about areas of your pursuit that interest you.  For me, even with two long ago university creative writing courses under my belt, I still bought and have read dozens of writing books.  I am currently reading Make a Scene by Jordan Rosenfeld, a writing book that focuses on the unit of action in a scene and how to maximize the value and impact of each word in those scenes.  This is a unique and specific take on writing that I needed when I bought the book.
  3. Practice, practice, practice.  What more can I say about this?  Use what you’ve learned in class, online, or via books you’ve read and put all that theory to the test.  Going to class and reading books does not make a writer, or engineer, or nurse.  Applying the learning in a real world scenario, for that is where the learning is cemented into our minds.  Our muscles develop what athletes call “muscle memory”.  Repetition in sports create the ability to repeat a desired behavior with precision.  We need repetition in any endeavor to hone our skills and deepen our understanding.  I have read it takes a million written words to achieve expertise in writing and other skills take upwards of 1000 hours of practice to achieve mastery.  There is no overnight success.
  4. Feedback.  If you attend a class, your work will no doubt be reviewed and graded by your instructor and often you will benefit from peer review of work or through group projects.  However, items 2 and 3 above include work done in a relative vacuum and this necessitates deliberate solicitation of feedback.  So, at least for writing, getting others to read your work and providing a critique is important to your progress.  Whether you find a mentor, have a spouse who loves to read, or join a writers group, find someone willing and able to read your work and provide an objective analysis.  This feedback is of great value.  As a writer, I’ve spent so much time with the story in my head that I have lost objectivity in translating that vision to a written version.  Another set of eyes and another opinion can quickly point out a flawed character, illogical plot device, poor description, bad word choice, and a host of other issues to which you the writer may be blind.  I have a supportive spouse who loves to read and reads fantasy, so she is always my first reader.  As of August, I am in a writer’s group with a great bunch of aspiring epic fantasy writers and the feedback they’ve provided on my first few chapters has opened my eyes to many opportunities for improvement.  Feedback is invaluable.

Who needs feedback?

Everyone.  If you pursue excellence and achievement in any area, learn what you can from teachers, self-study, and practice, but don’t miss an opportunity to seek feedback from peers and potential customers.  You will accelerate your developement and find more satisfaction as your skill progresses.  Don’t be afraid of the time it takes it learn.  Don’t allow fear of performing poorly to deter you from trying.  Like I said in my last post, persistence is more important than talent.  Go for it.  Make it happen.  Start today.  Start right now.

What are your tricks to learning?  How has feedback benefited you?  Please share so that I may learn from you.

And speaking of feedback…I would benefit from your feedback on this blog.  Thanks in advance…


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